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>> what was described in that meeting was an economic crisis beyond anything anybody had imagined. >> that was the trailer for a 17-minute shameless advertisement or documentary about the obama administration, that was directed by davis guggenheim, he of "an inconvenient truth" and "waiting for superman" fame. ari, we were talking about the obama machine going into 2012. we know that this kind of stuff, we're going to see more of this. i remember the will.i.am ads from 2008. do you think that that kind of video is compelling? that it gets voters to the polls? >> absolutely. i mean, this is by ...

Reasons is the super pacs. >> bill: how do you reply that you guys are damaged because you are beating each other up so much. >> these super pacs i think john mccain is right. the super pacs are a new feature in american politics right now. big money in the case of the santorum campaign and gingrich campaign a single billionaire responsible for the lion's share of the funding of the super pacs and that has a big impact. i think the process is going to go on longer because of the super pac dollars that come in. i can tell you, you know, i recognize that down the road we are going to get attacke...

Friends fund the pack. he pretends he has nothing to do with the pac. it's bologna. he's not telling the american people the truth. i don't think he's being candid, and that will be a major issue from here on out, for the rest of his campaign. the country has to decide. do you really want a massachusetts moderate who won't level with you to run against barack obama, who frankly will just tear him apart. i mean, he will not survive against the obama machine. >> now, this has been compared, guys, to what bob dole said, george herbert walker bush. but there's a real difference on two levels. one ...

I wasn't sticking a full fledged ledge lay agenda. i didn't have a lot of -- ledge lay agenda. i didn't have a lot of expectations. i remember pelosi in 2005, 2006 when they were running against republican majority in the house at that time was asked what are you going to do? nothing. we don't have a plan. our plan is to stop george w. bush. frankly, that's my plan to stop the democrats. stop the obama machine. republicans wanted to come up with a blueprint, if you will, that if they win they want to have a little bit of a mandate to do something. you can't say we won because we are not the de...