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United states senate. i question whether in terms of running for president, she would need a couple things that i don't yet see, one of which would be a huge grassroots money machine. let's face it, barack obama's stardom was backed by huge amounts of money, and i don't see yet, at least for elizabeth warren, that kind of grassroots core. and the second thing is a breadth of a base. elizabeth warren is a hero to the liberal democratic party, but mostly the white liberal part of the party, and as i look at that primary calendar and they take the primaries down south -- let's say she won iowa, t...

Channelling is energy into politics. how do you understand that dip after the obama machine had built this incredible, incredible get out the vote operation, that totally changed the electoral map. >> absolutely. in 2008, a lot of it was the narrative was hope, change, you know, young people turned out, women turned out, latinos turned out in a big way in 2008, as they did in 2012. but you saw a dip, because a lot of these things weren't necessarily -- you know, we had a student debt crisis. we have a climate change crisis. and we did get health care, we got the affordable care act, but what y...

That's all we do. our membership quintupled over the 2012 cycle. that is an astronomical level of political engagement and we need to take it through. >> here's the question, though. why was it there was such a dip between 2010 and 2012. and nalini, you work on channelling is energy into politics. how do you understand that dip after the obama machine had built this incredible, incredible get out the vote operation, that totally changed the electoral map. >> absolutely. in 2008, a lot of it was the narrative was hope, change, you know, young people turned out, women turned out, latinos turned ...

To take it through. >> here's the question, though. why was it there was such a dip between 2010 and 2012. and nalini, you work on channelling is energy into politics. how do you understand that dip after the obama machine had built this incredible, incredible get out the vote operation, that totally changed the electoral map. >> absolutely. in 2008, a lot of it was the narrative was hope, change, you know, young people turned out, women turned out, latinos turned out in a big way in 2008, as they did in 2012. but you saw a dip, because a lot of these things weren't necessarily -- you know, we...

The obama machine. when those two things come together in 2016, the republicans have a really tough job. there is a reason that there has been nobody from the complete outside come in and run for president for either party. you to have a network and an organization. one of the best things i think that dr. ben carson can do, if he is seriously considering this, is to enjoy a little bit of spotlight now. not every tv show right now. find some people that can advise you and go out to the cabin in the woods for three months and think. get four stages deep in the question. the problem with the repu...