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Obviously there's a few sites to the story, what's going to happen in the courtroom and the impact it might have on congress. what you think you might >> absolutely. you can't overstate the importance of what the court of public opinion, how that plays out in this case as well. one of the most damaging things about this whole case is the doctor has artie been convicted of trying to defraud the federal government, federal health -- medicare and medicaid out of over $100 million. this, especially with the backdrop of obamacare collapsing, it's devastating for democrats. obviously it's devastatin...

Basically republicans, something they campaigned on year after year after year, at least as of now, there's no path forward. >> the ayes are 41, the nays are 51. the motion is not agreed to. >> the republican party's seven-year effort to repeal obamacare collapsing after a dramatic senate floor vote that dragged on into the early morning. in the end it was senator john mccain who cast the decisive final no vote, siding with lisa murkowski and susan collins who voiced their disapproval on every measure voted on this week. republicans last-ditch effort, the skinny repeal amendment went down 49-5...

What you hopefully will do. >> bret: the hard sell. >> it's the version of trump i think people respond well to and they like him. to be honest, this day-to-day story is beside the point. i think the most relevant thing we've heard in this whole discussion was what john boehner said in a speech earlier. he said in 25 years in congress he didn't see a moment when the republicans agreed on what to do about health care. i think the biggest story here, all the talk of is it collapsing, is obamacare collapsing? the real question is, is the republican party collapsing? if they can't do something lik...

Savings accounts. >> why don't you pitch those instead of a straight repeal? why don't you pitch the ideas for how to tighten up certain of the exchanges mostly in states where they didn't expand medicaid and you don't have enough new england people coming into the market which is a fundamental problem with insurance. why don't do you it that way instead of going straight repeal when eight so controversial? >> two things. we should talk about all that and try to bring that together, but the main thing i keep coming back to, what do we tell the american people we were going to do? we told them ...

Now. and so it's a very, very tall hurdle, although like i said before in the process of having those comprehensive discussions you may find smaller fixes to the obamacare situation you could do if you can find commonality, but it's probably the little things, not the whole. >> just one quick point i wanted to make, there is no way, karoun is right, no way mitch mcconnell after this tooth pulling process for him is going to say you know what we should do? we should spend the next 18 months relitigating health care with the possibility that we're going to wind up in the exact same place that we...