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He's done. we haven't talked about portions of the executive order that is i fond off healthy people in order to make the regular obamacare plans much more expensive and loaded with sick people. if you look at that. you look at the fact that he's pulled advertising money for open enrollment, he's used obamacare money to run a pr campaign against it it's hard to avoid the conclusion that he's trying to make health care worse. he's trying to screw up people's lives. >> this is what he said. this is donald trump himself over the last several months saying what he wants to see happen to obamacare....

Absence of a few minutes peter baker from the "new york times." appreciate you sticking around, peter. >> heidi you get what maybe the toughest question of the day. this is for all of our viewers who have just gotten home who may not have caught up. what happened? what did the president do to healthcare today, more broadly, obamacare today? was there cruelty? was there sinna six involved as some of the democrats have charged. >> they have talked about letting obamacare fail. this is is not letting obamacare fail. had is actively ambushing obamacare and they're being pretty up-front about it sa...

>> reporter: experts say the president's move will hike rates for both middle class and lower income americans at an estimated cost to the government of more than $7 billion next year. the president is acting to dismantle obamacare even though he said he would let it collapse on its own earlier this year. >> let obamacare fail. it will be a lot easier. and i think we're probably in that position where we'll just let obamacare fail. >> reporter: holding a mini news conference on the south lawn of the white house, the president also defended his actions in puerto rico, including his tweet slammi...

Art of the deal," one of the great books, of course. the iran deal, this recent deal which is a catastrophe. >> reporter: the president is taking dramatic action to undermine another piece of barack obama's legacy, obamacare. ending the payments to insurance companies that help provide health care to lower income enrollees. >> and one by one it's going to come down. >> reporter: mr. trump said his actions won't harm the poor. >> are you concerned about poor people losing health care? >> no, because i think what we'll do is we'll be able to renegotiate so that everybody gets -- we just took car...

Had them. these payments are payments to insurance companies. i cannot believe that nancy pelosi was just on your screen there defending bailout payments to large corporations. typically the democrats are against that. it's sort of like the shoe is on the other foot here. the bottom lionel is these are bad policy and the payments are not appropriate. >> once again, they're designed as subsidies to help with the premium for individuals, the premiums are going to go up if the subsidies go away. the other criticism is that the president is doing this because he wants to see obamacare fail. >> zen...