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Briefings. and this is sort of the game that gets played in washington. they want to say they didn't know about something when it becomes clear it could be politically damaging. and so -- but it was not as if this thing was not told to them. they were -- it was a transparent program for those people on the intelligence committees. >> so it's oversight versus aftersight, i guess. i'm going to ask you if you think the vote, if it surprised you at all, coming out 11-3. and all three who voted against declassifying it, all republicans, marco rubio, james rich and stan kotz. what did you make of th...

Question, and one we can debate reasonably. the way he went about it was arguably alienating because it sounded like he was blaming the victims. we put up the fullscreen of the witnesses -- the lady from iowa who was there, talking about how much they put her through. look at these women. they're just regular american women who were they fly into washington, d.c. to give their testimony before the house ways happened to them.ee about what and then you've got these lawmakers saying, well, i haven't heard you tell me how i'm supposed to solve it. >> and blaming the defense strategy, which is rid...