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Axios, sabrina sidique with the guardian and margaret cross. a lot of definitely articles here. the, the, the. jonathan, we all try to figure him out. why does he get away with it? this is beyond rascal. he lies and makes up conspiracy theories like obama is from africa. he makes it up usually with an ethnic slur and people like him. 40% of the country say i approve of him. he makes up stuff like ted cruz's father helped kill kennedy. makes it up. >> during the campaign, he used this tactic, i don't know if you would call it a tactic, it's modus operandi which is say whatever you need to say t...

Political, chris. it was chuck grassley on the floor of the united states senate who sent a message to chief justice roberts said our confirmations will cease to be political when you stop making political decisions in the court. the whole thing is political and we have to thread it all together. in the end, it's we, the people, who are sovereign. they'll decide with elections and their public opinions. we have to trust that. what i'm concerned about is often the culture gets moved in the wrong direction because they're not really getting the objective truth through the media. >> well, congres...

Moving forward. but it is an interesting juncture. those figures on public opinion were fascinating. and you remember what it was that actually really flipped public opinion, of course. it was the tapes. there was testimony. there was ongoing testimony that implicated the president. it was when finally we learned of and then knew we were going to get the tapes that proved it. that kind of changed everything. >> sure. >> that was the tipping point. the real tipping point. and i think clearly in the russia investigation, i think we're not at that tipping point yet. >> back as recently as 1974, w...

Autocratic at the same time. the people who are the base, they may view this as authenticity, they may love it. >> to the point where it's a cliche. the media safari into trump country. >> what he's getting done for them, he's agitating the establishment and media, all these things they don't like. i think maybe the biggest thing he's done in his first year is from the oval office, really challenged the possibility of objective truth in a democracy. that's at the heart of our democracy. we deal with it every day as members of the media. and to challenge things that are demonstratable and knowa...

>> yes. i think the attacks on the fbi have demoralized the bureau. they started back during the campaign. let's remember. the fbi has had a really rocky year and a half going back all the way to james comey's handling of the clinton investigation. not the decision not to bring charges, but his highly unusual decision to give a public statement, which we know really rankled a lot of people inside the bureau and led to a good deal of controversy. for them to come out of that tough year in the election, and now be under attack constantly by the president of the united states, it does have an eff...