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Kavanaugh, and then to top it off -- of amy coney barrett. you may remember the infamous covid superspreader event at the white house marking her nomination just days after ruth bader ginsburg's death, before she was even buried. now, there are a lot of motivations for this, obsession the, key one the one that really mobilizes, much of what was organized was to get rid of abortion, and when you just confront them, when you say the obvious thing, i know what you believe in, they just fly. abortion rights, no, nothing to see here. >> i think the likelihood of roe v. wade being overturned is very...

At new york university, she clerk for justice sonia sotomayor in a, she now cohost the strict scrutiny podcast along with full disclosure my wife kate jones. i want to start on this aspect melissa with you, and then the texas law after. melissa, last night a lot of people thought there is an emergency application, the law is going to go into effect in midnight, it clearly violates current supreme court precedents, they're gonna see something right, there's gonna be in order, woke up this morning and still no order and then the editorial meeting i said, they're gonna have an order by the time w...

That just explicit threat in that kevin mccarthy statement. there's a lot of folks saying that that itself should trigger some ethics investigation. that it itself violates certain codes of conduct. what was your reaction? >> i think it's worse than an ethics violation. what mccarthy did is what i've been calling autocratic capture which is when the actors use government powers to bully private businesses into being their political allies, or in this case their political lackeys. it's something a regime didn't egypt, it's one-timer putin doesn't russia, it's not a dynamic that any american ceo...

These novel trade in the middle of a pandemic. for which there's not a whole lot of establish effective treatments,. doctors should be cautious hidden feel. provide something for patients, let's stay within clinical guidelines. , and give safe affective medications this is not one to be shown effective for the covid-19. virus the argument that i have seen from doctors that are doing this. and i think i don't know what peoples intentions are you think some are genuine. some are trying to help. we prescribe it all the time we are the ones out here in the. field and you bureaucrats and profession...

Responsible thing, follow ethics, and follow us establish guidelines and do the right, safest thing they can for their patients and stay on the side of science here. >> all right doctor gerald harmon from the american medical association, i really appreciate you taking time with us. >> thank you very much, chris, it's an honor and not just in the midst of the heavy load of covid patients, i get asked a lot about these treatments, and i do follow the science and try to avoid the fact pollution that we see sometimes. thank you. >> thank you, doctor, up next the republican agenda that is right no...