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Hillary clinton. that was why the investigation was opened in the first place. the obstruction element only came later when the president fired the fbi director who was investigating his campaign for that alleged collusion. of course, this is -- this was always going to be top of mind for bob mueller. and i think that bringing in emmett flood is significant for another reason which is that whether he worked in the george w. bush white house, he detail mostly with executive privilege issues. that indicates they're going to take a new approach maybe to fighting off a potential interview with mue...

Things as if mueller is looking at obstruction. he's not really looking at collusion whether he it comes to the president. it's really about obstruction. michael cap pugh toe who was interviewed by mueller gave a pretty startling quote. this is him talking to cnn's reporter manu raju. he says you know, the investigators know more about the trump campaign than anyone who ever worked there. and says they are still very much interested in collusion. what's your response to that? >> well, of course. collusion was always at the heart of this investigationing whether russia interfered in the electio...

Which aren't, is really problematic for a number of reasons. i think that the reason why mueller wants to ask sessions and sit down with sessions and interview him is just because of sessions' large role during the campaign. he was the head of the foreign policy team, he met with george papadopolous, he met several times with sergey kislyak. of course mueller will want to know what did you talk about in your office in september, what did you talk about to him earlier that year at the mayflower hotel and why did you leave these meetings out of your testimony when you spoke to congress. what abo...