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Then on june 7th, before that meeting on june 9th, donald trump in a campaign appearance after he wins the new jersey primary takes out of context, sort of extemp iranousel says that he's going to be revealing all kinds of information on the chin tons. it's going to be very damaging to them. >> michael ka pugh toe says that was from clinton cash, not the book. >> but we've got the e-mail. and then what happens? he doesn't reveal that. but we do know up to that point, at least in april of that year, we know that the russians had started to hack into hillary clinton's campaign office. we know th...

Anymore with fresh faces who do want to be there is part of the larger picture of the administration. right? it's going on in cabinet officials offices, it's going on, you know, all over the administration. >> natasha, one of the things that this legal team has been fairly effective at is framing things as if mueller is looking at obstruction. he's not really looking at collusion whether he it comes to the president. it's really about obstruction. michael cap pugh toe who was interviewed by mueller gave a pretty startling quote. this is him talking to cnn's reporter manu raju. he says you know...

Things as if mueller is looking at obstruction. he's not really looking at collusion whether he it comes to the president. it's really about obstruction. michael cap pugh toe who was interviewed by mueller gave a pretty startling quote. this is him talking to cnn's reporter manu raju. he says you know, the investigators know more about the trump campaign than anyone who ever worked there. and says they are still very much interested in collusion. what's your response to that? >> well, of course. collusion was always at the heart of this investigationing whether russia interfered in the electio...