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In fact, cozying up to russia. i'll be -- i'll be intently interested with regard to the conversation between flynn and ambassador kislyak if flynn invoked the name of the president, if there was a quid pro quo discussed with russia, you do this for us, we'll do this for you. if the russian came back and said we want this from donald trump. that's what i'll be tuned in to and whether or not there is an implication there that trump -- i'm calling on behalf of trump. trump asked me to say this. trump is telling me to tell you this. that will be significant. and then this puts into a new light th...

His deputy, to come out and say that they made this decision not to charge the president with obstruction of justice? >> i've got many questions about the process, kasie. by process, the decision by which bob mueller special counsel decided this was a hard issue, obstruction issue. he couldn't exonerate the president, couldn't find him guilty so he will kick it across the street and have the a.g. make the call. that's unusual to me and something the american people will be talking about in terms of what we paid the special counsel to do. we certainly paid for a comprehensive detailed investiga...

Carefully on this issue. >> ken delaney. what about the collusion piece of this? i know you're down for a very private conference with a lot of folks you talk to in the national security against world. i'm curious what you're picking up from those folks and how they're thinking about this. this report was pretty clear in saying there was no evidence of conspiracy or collusion is a word we often use here, but there have been a lot of very difficult to understand moves by the president when it comes to russia. >> to be honest, kasie, it falls down partisan lines. people obama appointees skeptica...

Takedown, that's a vindictive view. they'd be well advised to remember churchill. a little generosity would go a long way here. if they're going to come back and just be vindictive and continue on that train, i think there are going to be a lot of people in the middle who would be open to coming over and be more supportive of the president who will find that kind of argument insufferable. this whole investigation started because of suspicious activities about people around the president. and so it was important and legal to do it. now, the democratic side, i must say this obstruction issue, wh...

Actually sit down and answer questions orally. did so in writing. written questions and answers but not an oral interview. laura, what else are you picking up? >> it's clear you see a glimpse of this in attorney general bill barr's letter to congress today. obviously he wasn't here at the justice department when all of these sensitive discussions are ongoing between the justice department and the special counsel's office on the other hand. but you see in barr's letter how the justice department really didn't believe they had a prosecutable case on collusion or conspiracy issues between the tru...