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Lawyers, rudy giuliani in an interview with axios said. i don't think they have any evidence of collusion of any kind. i think their obstruction case as a legal matter doesn't exist. so again the white house exuding confidence here. >> and i think that's to be expected. if you are innocent that's what you do convey. to me it's entirely credible particularly on the collusion side. if there was evidence of collusion it would have leaked a long time ago. the obstruction issue is an opinion. if the president's lawyers say there is no case for collusion, that's their opinion. they are entitled to i...

Questioning. that's just crazy. so if this thing has to be litigated -- for instance, if bob mueller decides he needs the president's testimony on the obstruction issue and wants to push that issue, it'll be decided by a court, not by white house counsel, not by mr. trump's personal lawyers. it'll be decided by a court. by the way, for what it's worth, i think the court precedents line up nicely for the prosecutors in this. >> david, it's jonathan. a question for you. so much has been made about how robert mueller works quietly. he follows guidelines. he is not out talking to the press, unlike...

And so far the president has been receptive to it, but he is feeling a a little bit relieved in that he has a ally in matt whitaker overseeing the entire thing. >> and jonathan, let me pick up on the point of how this may play hout out, and we are getting a better idea of what the president is dealing with from none other than his own lawyer rudy giuliani who told the washington post that there are some questions that create more situations legally than others and some unnecessary, and some that were possible traps and we might consider some as irrelevant. so the question, jonathan, is this a ...

Interested in, it would exclude the obstruction of justice questions, wouldn'james comey a not have been part of the focus of robert mueller. that's a little bit strange given the evolution of this case but not so strange if you consider that that relies on the men re-a, t. he meant what he said or didn't mean, that sure, so i'm sure there will be the most fruitful and comprehensive responses about things before the obstruction issue, and finally thinking about in the context of when it will come out, i'm surprised there is no deadline on which to respond. normally there would be a period of t...

Written answers to questions that they want to submit to robert mueller as early as this week, we're told. although that may slip a little bit. these questions -- the questions they're answering, ali, pertain only to the issue of russian meddling in the 2016 election. they are not, as far as we know, answering any questions about obstruction of justice. trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani, has previously said he thought those questions were off limits, although he was a little more equivocal in an interview with nbc news. the president's legal team is believed to consider the obstruction of justice ...