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Shout obstruction of justice. it is so clearly a political act. which the president can't help himself by underscore and highlight that you wonder if this is -- if not an act of obstruction itself, but at least very good evidence of in tent, corrupt intent. >> the thing that strikes me about that is that don mcgahn is a witness in the russia investigation. >> i don't know how he stayed in his job. >> i don't know -- -- how he wrote that and he is now involved. what if this becomes something that winds up being looked into. what does that mean? this whole thing has become kind of this sauce tha...

Can't make it a crime. we have an untarry executive and you need a mens rea. and the ac test ray a, act of a crime can't be a constitutionally protected act regardless of what the motive may have been, we don't psycho analy analyze the president. >> as we look into obstruction of justice, we now have admission of guilt. we have a charge. does that strengthen the case for obstruction of justice? >> you have to connect a lot of dots before you get to object instruction of justice. in a sense, section 1001 could be considered part of the body of laws. and there are many federal laws that deal wit...