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Fine. we still don't have an answer whether or not he's compromised and why has he been so deferential to the russian president or any other autocratic leader. we still don't know. that's the counter-intelligence person to this. >> that's not in the purview of what a special counsel does. >> no. you're totally right. >> this is a legal question. if there are people in intelligence circles have other view, that's their prerogative. i am curious why the obama administration in the last six months of its time in office did so little to push back on russia and influence. i will tell you -- they we...

Against himself and would have delayed the investigation. there is a question about why mueller punted on the obstruction question. he deferred the question to his superiors at the department of justice and in doing so subverted why he was appointed independent of donald trump because he wasn't hired by donald trump. william barr was hired by donald trump, and they ended up making the decision to legally clear donald trump of obstruction. that will be a question going forward. it wasn't just barr, it was rosenstein and he was there for two years. >> thank you. to ken, we will give you the last...

To the attorney general or at least the deputy attorney general. however, the whole reason there is a special counsel appointed in this case is that because the president's top appointees have a conflict of interest. they are answerable to the president. they are political appointees. now, it doesn't mean they don't have the right to review mueller's decision on obstruction of justice. robert mueller, unlike kenneth starr and other independent counsels, was an employee of the department of justice. he is a subordinate of william barr. but the fact that barr made this final decision raises the ...

As much as the mueller report is only beginning its journey, perhaps to congress, to the public. so, too, are the political battles. >> and so, nicolle, on the political side of things, that just goes right to the base and everybody stays in their partisan bubbles. >> we'll see. this is a republican party led by men who were front and center with very strong words and very strong opinions about obstruction of justice when the president in question was bill clinton. it took me three minutes to put together five minutes of those men screaming at the top of their lungs about what bill clinton's a...

Attempts by these folks. this is -- katy, as we know, this is what donald trump does, overexaggerates everything, whatever it is. and this is the pr head start that essentially the trump administration -- the president is getting, thanks to the fact that his attorney general that made this assessment. and this is where democrats are in a huge box here. we're all taking bill barr's word for the -- clearly, robert mueller found troubling evidence on the obstruction question. because he could not come to a conclusion. he left it for the attorney general to come to this conclusion. so he found tro...