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Elliott, let me get your sense where this all is heading in the immediate future. >> yeah, i think what we really need, though, is we really need to see robert mueller's underlying findings. i think there are a number of unanswered questions here. many people, many americans, many lawyers, people who run investigations, are curious as to why, for instance, the president wasn't interviewed or even, you know, donald trump jr. or other individuals who were close to this. so that's one fundamental question that i think we really need to think about here. ultimately, this question to not address --...

Massive federal investigation, 2,800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants, 50 pen registers we learned today found no evidence of conspiracy by donald trump or anyone around him. that's oa huge deal, huge win for the president. on the obstruction question while he wasn't cleared, he's in the clear legally because the top law enforcement official in the land has decided not to bring a case -- a charge, leaving aside the president of whether the president can be indicted -- >> i'll stop you there, ken. just to make sure we're not moving too fast. you said leaving it aside, i'm not -- but he doesn't le...

40 hours of receiving that report, when he gets all of that evidence laid out, what this a decision he came to too hastily and what i have been told to officials who are backing up their boss' decision, you have to remember william barr for a long time knew what was in this and rod rosenstein, who worked closely on this, had been in charge of the investigation from the very inception, he appointed robert mueller and therefore he knew what was coming to him so they had these pieces long before the official report came down on friday, kasie. >> interesting point. jeremy bash, in the point that j...

The same commitment that we had on friday when the attorney general said as soon as this weekend, i'll release the findings. everything else now is really undefined on that time line. >> does that make it completely irrelevant in the political world? >> no, because they're going to continue -- they will drag him up as soon as they can to talk about these things. i think there are two layers of questions here, how much is bill barr going to release to the public? i also think there's a question how much information about the president bob mueller put in the report. he heard the department of ju...

Thinking there about how much of this they're going to encourage -- what are they going to say in public about whether this should be released? >> that has been the question president trump, despite many opportunities to answer in the last few hours, has not answered. let's say the mood at the white house among the officials we talked to and are reporting seems to be celebratory, frankly. there's a glow or aura among folks that you're chatting with him after the release of this barr letter, and i will say the president came over and in this sort of interesting moment -- i think he plaued it ba...