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Have been talking about is the letter spends a long time about a particular obstruction statute and they don't discuss the more relevant and more recent statute 1512. there are a lot of problems with the legal argument. >> they cite the wrong statute. let's focus on the big picture as you mentioned. just generally they say in this letter that the president, a president cannot obstruct justice because he is the president. is that right? is that a common view in legal thinking and among legal experts? >> it doesn't come up that often. it comes up almost never. one of the central questions relate...

About the strength of the executive branch and how wildly different is this interpretation? >> well, so first of all, it's not very different from what the president's lawyers have been saying to any journalist who will listen for the last lot of months and those comments that they have made have provoked a pretty substantial discussion, much of it -- but not all of it about how exactly the president's authority is under article 2 of the constitution and interact with the obstruction statute. i would say it's a very broad set of claims. it's not one that is accepted widely outside of certain p...

There wasn't nearly as much substance as there was verbiage, and i agree with every word of what charlie savage said about that memo. his analysis was spot on. it's very clear that the memo makes arguments that are so over-the-top that even a conservative supreme court would be overwhelmingly unlikely to reject them from the technical arguments that completely ignore the change in the obstruction statute to the overarching ar e arguments about the president being incapable of violating laws about the proceeding of criminal cases and about obstruction of justice. it's all really nonsense. in fa...

Wolff's book goes into a sort of rage whenever he sees you on tv. what sort of parallels do you see here? >> i tweeted that when i saw that headline too. what i see, as i say, one is private. the other's public. you've got to remember, anderson, that the obstruction statute, if you're looking at the criminal law, is an endeavor statute. all you have to do is have a corrupt motive and a corrupt intent and make overt acts towards that intent, and you're on the wrong side of that law. it's not very hard. trump is going to be judged not only that, but on a political standard. and if i look at the ...

Say. what parallels do you draw, and president trump when he see michael wolf's book goes into a rage when he sees it on tv, but what parallels do you see here? >> i tweeted that when i saw that headline, too. what i saw is one is public and the other private. the obstruction statute, if you're looking at the criminal law is an endeavor statute. and all you have to do is have a corrupt motive and corrupt intent and make overt acts towards that intent and you're on the wrong side of that law. it's not very hard. trump is going to be judged not only that but on a political standard. if i look at...