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>> does the president have the authority to fire rod rosenstein? >> i don't think he has the ability to do it directly. on the other hand, i don't want to give them ideas. if they were to rescind account regulation that. >> you're talking about mueller. i mean rosenstein. >> rosenstein, yeah, yeah. could do that. >> would that constitute in your mind more evidence of obstruction were he to do that. >> i'm not sure it would by itself constitute obstruction. the question would be, what was his intent in doing so. but it would play into a narrative that i think leads one to conclude that the pres...

To give them ideas. if they were to rescind account regulation that. >> you're talking about mueller. i mean rosenstein. >> rosenstein, yeah, yeah. could do that. >> would that constitute in your mind more evidence of obstruction were he to do that? >> i'm not sure it would by itself constitute obstruction. the question would be, what was his intent in doing so. but it would play into a narrative that i think leads one to conclude that the president probably has engaged in some obstructive behavior. >> james comey obviously making the rounds this week and someone that you worked with, had inte...

Dialogue and how he's perceived. michael, your take? >> frankly, i didn't like that conversation at all. i don't know why it's relevant to anything. the only thing that struck me of interest to it was the question of whether or not the president asked him about the possibility of investigating that and comey saying back to him maybe you should think about that. that's the only thing. >> why? >> because the other stuff is just -- >> why did that interest you? >> why did it interest me? because we have conversations that follow that where the president is sort of demanding that other people push...

Pattern, correct? >> that's right. you look at this behavior in the context of multiple other things that the president is accused of having done, asking for a loyalty test from comey, firing comey, asking priebus, his former chief of staff to push back against stories, asking coats and rogers, the national intelligence advisers to intervene with the fbi to put an end to this investigation. all these things create a pattern of behavior which has to be looked at in terms of whether this is obstructive behavior. i should say one thing. when we talk about obstruction of justice, just to be clear,...

Having a tear down that wau party. so we can go back to bipartisanship. >> so you think they're up to something, they're hiding from you? >> no, i think it's just that their consistent nature of wanting to not bring us in on this investigation and continue to pursue their own. i think obstructive behavior. and actions. and so it's unfortunate but it's not how our committee's ever worked in the past and hopefully, this is only for the next ten months. >> do you have a sense the white house has failed to work effectively with the fbi to the point they don't even trust the full field investigatio...