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with the independents, with the media. you know, mischief is members of the other party who are powering my apartment. vote for me, the loyal republican. no wonder we see this haley support among independents, and even in the general election. if this keeps going, haley versus trump, if you make a stand in new hampshire, does trump make it a similar loyalty test their? we see trump is still extremely popular with most republican voters. >> steve kornacki. steve, thank you very much. and coming up, would you go out in this? the last time it was this cold in iowa for the caucus was, never. candidates are doing the round -- for monday. plus, what's next after monday night, it could be a two person race, if it is can that person really beat trump in a one-on-one? we will be right back. right back.
july and august? >> yeah obviously, pending. we will see who the republican nominee is. i mean, we've got these polls now. and i think again, you see it a little bit here, with haley doing well with independents, doing well, there are some self identified democrats were gonna be voting here in these iowa caucuses. it's probably not a surprise, when you do trial -- of haley versus biden, she does better in the general election right now than donald trump does. although again call back to a very distant republican primary here. but back in 2000, the last candidate to have numbers anything like donald trump's on the eve of the iowa caucuses, for public and caucuses, was george w. bush in 2000. trump just broke his records for the final share in the final poll, and the biggest lead in the final poll. and george w. bush was running worse than his main challenger, john mccain, against al gore. but would bush turn that race in, to push for his mccain in 2000, he turned it into a loyalty test -- in states like south carolina. he said hey, my opponent is popular with the democrats,
but what bush turned that race into, bush vs mccain in 2000, he turned it into a loyalty test -- in states like south carolina. he said hey, my opponent is popular with the democrats, with the independents, with the media. you know, mischievous members of the other party who are powering my opponent. vote for me, the loyal republican. no wonder we see this haley support among independents, and even in the general election. if this keeps going, haley versus trump, if you make a stand in new hampshire, does trump make it a similar loyalty test there? we see trump is still extremely popular with most republican voters. >> steve kornacki. steve, thank you very much. and coming up, would you go out in this? the last time it was this cold in iowa for the caucus was, never. candidates are doing the round up enough support for monday. plus, what's next after monday night, it could be a two person race, if it is can that person really beat trump in a one-on-one? we will be right back.
in new hampshire, go down to south carolina, over 70%. you've got something like that working. there if she wins new hampshire, it is on independent voters and on voters who don't necessarily like donald trump, trump skeptic or hostile voter. it trump can turn around and sent most republicans in south carolina and if we are like donald trump a lot. he can make it a loyalty test. he can say, she got votes from people who don't like me, who aren't republicans, who aren't one of us. you want to stop with, her with the media? i'm sure he'd work that into. or do you want to side with me? that kind of low to this. everything we know about that republican party right, now trump would have utmost case numbers to carry -- >> when you told about republicans not liking donald trump, the few who come out in the blizzard and iowa and caucus for nikki haley or ron desantis. same thing, independents, new
christians. that's powering him in iowa and one of the reasons haley is doing well, it has one of the smallest shares of evangelical voters in its republican electorate. two thirds in iowa, maybe 25% in new hampshire, go down to south carolina, over 70%. you've got something like that working. there if she wins new hampshire, it is on independent voters and on voters who don't necessarily like donald trump, trump skeptics or hostile voters. it trump can turn around and sent most republicans in south carolina and if we are like donald trump a lot. he can make it a loyalty test. he can say, she got votes from people who don't like me, who aren't republicans, who aren't one of us. you want to side with, her with
political bond with evangelical christian. it's powering him in iowa. and one of the reasons haley is doing well compared to trump in new hampshire it's like two-thirds in iowa. it's maybe 20, 25% in new hampshire. go down to south carolina, over 70%. so you've got something like that working right there, and then you've just got if she wins new hampshire and it's on independent voters and it's on voters that don't necessarily like donald trump, if trump can turn around and say most republicans in south carolina and everywhere like donald trump, they like him a lot, and he can make it a loyalty test. he can say she went and got votes from people who don't like me, who weren't republicans, who weren't one of us. do you want to side with her, side with the media, or side with me. and that loyalty test in most states trump would have the numbers probable to carry with that loyalty test. >> when you talk about most republicans liking donald trump,
number of them. so why are they refusing to listen to our side of the story? interesting you talk about elections and your status as an elected politician. of course, that was in 2021. in 2019, you lost. and the difference between 2019 and 2021 is that pro—democracy activists were actually allowed to run in 2019 and weren't allowed to run in 2021. so maybe that says something. and, really... you know what, stephen? but i was also elected in 2015. yeah, you were. and my point is that in a democracy... crosstalk. ..in a democracy, people who get elected then lose office, but that no longer seems to be possible in hong kong. i'm saying that as an elected representative, i have received more than 60,000 votes in the last election. i'm well aware of that. my point is simply that in the last election, you had to pass a loyalty test before you were allowed to stand, and all of the pro—democracy campaigners simply were not allowed to stand. you know that as well as i do.