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brian: don't you drop out if you don't get in this debate? why stay in? katie: kirsten gillibrand was going to pay people money to donated money that was going to cost her $130,000. at some point the minimizing returns. brian: you got ryan and steyer and others who just don't even qualify. how do they. katie: not necessarily for the presidency. some of these people are in it for other opportunities, senate races or governor's races or getting their name i.d. higher for the next race. steve: speaking of governor ththe governor of new york state would not get behind her because is he behind joe biden. nonetheless byron you're welcombye bye.>> it's been pastr people to get out. this was the democratic party all along have two debates very inclusive. two nights of 10 people on each night. but, when september arrived,

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