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One president elected from the house james garfield, president ford was from the house but he was appointed. so it's very hard for a representative to make that jump. why? >> it is, of course. because it's a slower house and all of that. but right now your strong anti-insider mood. frankly the best credential of any candidate is cain. his name is mr.. not senator, not congressman, not governor. but mister. >> bill: did you see him on the factor the other day. >> yeah. >> bill: come on. he doesn't know geo politics. is he too experienced. but let's stay with bachmann. i don't know. i agree with...

I just don't think they're suicidal enough in the leadership, not the steve kings, but the leadership. john boehner has been asked whether he would use a government shutdown either on health care or on, you know, the debt ceiling or some other process and he has said no. he doesn't want to do that. >> okay. jonathan alter, are you picking the bears? >> i am. of course. look, i grew up very close to wrigley field where the bears used to play for many years. total bears fan. >> you grew up there, but that doesn't mean they're any good. >> come on. this is the first time we've had a good quarterb...