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Is, but you can find all the obstruction you want. undermine the problem, you undermine confidence in it. they do not come up with a smoking gun showing obstruction. the obstruction does not matter at all in the court of public opinion. you have a lot of trouble impeaching somebody for some vague obstruction, giuliani on tv, they know that. they know that. we undermine the actual problem, no evidence of of the strategy here, and to that, it's straightforward about it. >> the people will ignore that. >> could be hard, underlying fine, it's hard to make the case that telling comey to back off fl...

Russians. >> and we know the head of a data analytics company contracted to the trump campaign reached out to wikileaks in an attempt to get e-mails from hillary clinton's private server. so the public doesn't know if there was collusion, but we do know there was a lot of smoke. >> do you think president trump told general flynn to lie to the fbi about his contacts with the russians? >> i don't know the answer to that. i know this, though, that in the aftermath of the flynn firing, you had the president of the united states intervening with the fbi director asking him to lay off flynn, interve...

Comey. what we heard about the testimony behind closed doors is that mccabe told the lawmakers is that james comey told him about the conversations with president trump, and remember what president trump told comey, he talked to him about the investigation into michael flynn and suggested he should back off flynn, and suggested that james comey should give him loyalty and that's according to comey's public testimony. the president disputed that, but mccabe told the committee that comey soon after those conversations told mccabe about this and mccabe could provide or be a witness to corroborate...

Alleged conversation with comey began over the weekend after flynn, of course, pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi. trump tweeted, quote, i had to fire general flynn because he lied to the vice president and the fbi. he has pled guilty to those lies, unquote. now the president's tweet prompted new fewer than 43 question marks from former director of the u.s. government ethics office walter schaub. he asked are you admitting you knew flynn had lied to the fbi when you asked comey to back off flynn and multiple question marks. now if the president did know when he asked james comey to halt his in...

Your family. >> trump had comey over for dinner one weekend into his presidency. kind of astonishing. a one on one dinner. the idea they'd permit that is jaw dropping if you think about that when there's an ongoing investigation by the fbi of the trump campaign. but what happened at that dinner? only two people there. comey testified to it and in much more detail to mueller. but presumably he told reince about it. e-mails and phone logs. maybe also conversations. and then there's the meeting where everyone leaves and comey testified about that where comey understood trump to be asking him to l...