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When you heard democrats questioning the president's finances and who signed off on what, who authorized what, could that lead to further ininquiriry into the president's business dealings, possible insurance fraud has been raised, other concerns about his tax returns. were the questions by the democrats creating a kind of path toward those kinds of investigations being intensified? >> they absolutely were. we know that robert mueller is limited, so the only thing he can investigate is the national security issue about whether people on the campaign conspired with the russians to steal is it e...

The court? we're told that it was. and what other information was there in the application to bolster it? remember, it was approved four times by the fisa court, by four different judges. some news accounts have said four republican appointed judges on the fisa court. we just never know. we never see these applications. it's hard to know exactly who signed off on what. but those are some of the questions. and i suspect some of them, we'll never know the answers to. >> pete williams, thank you very much. joining us from washington, d.c. today. with me now, msnbc contributor and white house corr...