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Have intelling -- you believe in integrity of the media and you ask top editors to come to this off the record spin session. it's not unlike how he describes learning about what he calls the magnitude of the whole situation. he was sitting at his breakfast table two weeks ago reading about this in the "the washington post" when the "the washington post" broke the rosen story and then he suddenly feels this sense of remorse and seems to understand the magnitude of this search warrant that he signed off on. now, let's step back, this is a search warrant that not only described james rosen as a c...

Materials. with regard to the prosecution of the press, that is nothing something i have been involved or heard of or a wise policy. now republicans on the house judiary committee is not a letter to the attorney general and say how can you claim not to be involved in a attempted prosecution of the member of the media and you were involved in the discussions of james rosen. that is james rosen from fox news and the subpeona and search warrant that he signed off on. >> we'll bring in juan williams and charles krauthammer. juan, bill o'rielly is not here. i want to start off with that. today, it ...

You need someone, external person to investigate this. if he can't recall, how can he vet it. bill: brit's become point he declared his bias by signing off on the affidavit. >> absolutely. bill: mary ann, do you believe eric holder can rightfully investigate eric holder? >> i think at this point the answer is yes. to call for him to remove himself is premature at best the precedent, it would set would be damning for everybody because if eric holder has to remove himself for anyone who has any concern over any subpoena he signs, the attorney general's both democrats and republicans would have t...

The huffington post and others jump on the bandwagon that spells trouble for the attorney general, d doesn't it? >> the attorney general is one of the few appointees who stayed in this next administration and he's very close with the president, some described him as an alter ego type of figure. the pressure is mounting on him, it's a dangerous time. this week he's going on what we might call an apology tour trying to talk to the media, leading members of the media to say, look we are not after you, we are not trying to criminalize your behavior. one of the most troubling revelations to come ou...

Thes the espionage act. it cited rozen's reporting techniques, trying to play to the ego of a source, general reporting techniques, and so he was criminalizing that. the fact -- and now we know from doug's reporting that he spoke with his staff about it. so, for him to be surprised that that is what he signed off on, and the magnitude of what he signed off on is really troubling. jon: no other reporter ever in history has tried to flatter a source or play to their ego. what he are they thinking there at the justice department? is there a bunker mentality going on or what? >> i have to sit back...