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They were kind of nowhere in the world of cyber. and they have come way up the line there. so why is this scary? what's concerning about this? in nuclear, we understand the deterrent effect. if they lob a nuclear weapon at the united states, the state of north korea is gone an hour later. cyber is different. while nuclear is on an on, off switch, cyber is on a thermos t thermostat, you can move it up, you can move it down. their attacks so far, against sony, against south korea, the use of a new weapon that they called wannacry that devastated the british health system, was based on a vulnerab...

Remember a couple weeks ago there were headlines about designer babies? gene editing? it's already happening. in other places. it doesn't mean it's right to do it. the technology is going to be there. i think if america wants to win, we have to have more of it here. >> greg: jesse, thoughts. >> jesse: i was a designer baby. can you tell? killer robots and sex robots. we either want to murder people or make love to them. [laughter] >> jesse: we are so brilliant. musk is self-serving. he wants to be the last human that robots turn on and kill. i am pro-killer robot. if there's a threat that they...

Remember a couple weeks ago there were headlines about designer babies? gene editing? it's already happening. in other places. it doesn't mean it's right to do it. the technology is going to be there. i think if america wants to win, we have to have more of it here. >> greg: jesse, thoughts. >> jesse: i was a designer baby. can you tell? killer robots and sex robots. we either want to murder people or make love to them. [laughter] >> jesse: we are so brilliant. musk is self-serving. he wants to be the last human that robots turn on and kill. i am pro-killer robot. if there's a threat that they...

Different how you shut them down. >> martin, and maybe this is more of a question for your pilot there, mitchell, but why is it possible -- because i've gotten this question a lot from viewers. why is it possible to even shut down the transponder. why can pilots have that ability? >> the only reason that we have an off switch, anderson, is when we're on the ground. after you're on the ground and land and taxi off the runway, you're no longer a factor for any traffic so there's no point in you being on the screen, you turn it off and save the air traffic controllers the hassle of trying to decl...

I can get into the menu and begin to shut things off. think of like your iphone where you turn off the wi-fi and maybe turn off the bluetooth, eventually maybe turn off the cellular. but that phone is still communicating even with that shutdown with the main telephone system. i can degrade the system. i can't shut it down. to do that, i've got to go somewhere into the electronics bay. i've got to be more of an electrical engineer. lastly, the transponder. we've heard a lot about that. this i can turn off very simply. one, two, three. it's off. we're now invisible to radar, at least identifying...