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>> you were speaking and tweeting about the briefing that happened on capitol hill yesterday. i'm curious what your read is. it's hard to parse. it's hard to parse. i have deep skepticism because of some of the players, because of the agendas. it's hard. we don't see the intelligence. what is your read? >> i think there is intelligence suggesting that there's a heightened threat level in iraq. i don't second guess the administration for deciding to pull personnel out of harm's way. it's also perfectly clear that the iranians are reacting to us. it's the pulling out of the iran deal, it's the n...

>> you were speaking and tweeting about the briefing that happened on capitol hill yesterday. i'm curious what your read is. it's hard to parse. i have deep skepticism because of some of the players, because of the agendas. it's hard. we don't see the intelligence. what is your read? >> i think there is intelligence suggesting that there's a heightened threat level in iraq. i don't second guess the administration for deciding to pull personnel out of harm's way. it's also perfectly clear that the iranians are reacting to us. it's the pulling out of the iran deal, it's the naming of the iranian...

Makes with documents. >> okay. there is a disconnect between what the white house says about michael cohen and what some republicans are saying about michael cohen and what some democrats are saying about michael cohen in terms of credibility. the white house is trying to undercut his credibility completely, saying he's a known liar, and i'm paraphrasing here, it's offensive that he's even being given another chance to speak. devin nunes has said that cohen's testimony in front of the intel committee should be public. he says there's no reason to prevent him from testifying publicly since he p...

The wall is tantamount to accepting that sort of position that the white house has been taking. it's very difficult for us to do that as much as we want daca to be something that we -- >> to be solved. doug, do you think trump is operating here from a defensive position or an offensive position? was this move, because he's feeling the pressure of the shutdown or do you think he's trying to sort of trap democrats, box them in to coming back to the table? >> it's a bit of both. he's on defense. here's something i've never said to you probably, donald trump is reasonable and correct here. it's th...

Probability event that russia would annex cry mimea, that rus would -- whatever happened in the uk, it's still being investigated. >> or shoot down a civilian airliner. >> or violate our sovereignty in the 2016 presidential elections. the point is putin is in an aggressive, offensive position and we need to push back on him. i can't do it, i'm just a citizen right now, i live in palo alto. i need the president of the united states to do it because if he doesn't, it's going to look like a sign of weakness. >> mike mcfaul, thank you so much, good to see you. breaking news, let's go to nbc news...