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Of azov. they described mariupol as nothing left. >> the people in mariupol, they don't have a chance to be heard. they're in need of help. they drink water that is not the water that you would use for technical purposes. there's no one you can ask for help. >> intense shelling and gun fire continue in kyiv where black smoke can be seen rising from outside the city. ukrainian forces are not only defending key regions but in some cases are now taking an offensive posture where they retook a suburb. the devastation of the hard hit spot of kyiv are so widespread, it's difficult. >> the moments wh...

Biden allegedly that if stronger sanctions are put in place, it will have a catastrophic effect on the relationship, that is the car to be played. this is a risk/reward ratio. why in the world would putin think biden would back down from that? >> reporter: the relationship is in a pretty tense state already. in fact, as you recall, russia kept violating this other weapons treat ya that it was just abandoned entirely during the trump administration. the "new york times" has good reporting and has real concerns about its own posture, vis-a-vis missiles. i think john is right. it's a little bit o...

Noninterventionist. people forget this about him. because of the rhetoric, because of the tweeting, the intention is to see him as somebody with an offensive posture. he has been on the side of the republican party that is not consistent with where the elizabeth cheneys and others are. in that sense he has exposed a natural rift within republican circles on foreign policy questions. he's very popular with republicans but there is a fissure within republican circles that shouldn't be ignored. >> as we're talking about this, i want to grapple with the democratic field that's still so large peopl...

Harder to make that mark. >> it might be the case, think about this, nia, think about the idea that certainly if biden were on the ropes, hasn't kamala harris based on her own record opened herself up to scrutiny of her own record? is that going to be an issue now? especially as a former prosecute. that's going to be an issue for her. >> i think that's right. you saw biden tilt in that direction when he said, listen, i decided to become a public defender, not a prosecutor. guess who the prosecutor is in that instance? of course it's kamala harris. you've seen some african-americans, for instan...

Own record? is that an issue now especially a former prosecutor? >> that's right. you saw biden kind of at least tilt in that direction. in the debate. he said i decided to become a public defender not a prosecutor. guess who the prosecutor is in the instance. kamala harris. you have seen african americans criticize her. labeling herself as a progressive prosecutor. that she implemented changes as attorney general of california. that is a weakness. who on the stage with her is going to go after her? she made great gains primarily because she went in aggressive offensive posture. going at biden...