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Between readers and writers. so we should redouble our efforts to improve. howie: hire people who have no intention of living or working in washington, d.c. otherwise find people in an impressive group of elite liberal opinion. i would say it goes beyond that being in a cultural bubble. the people you see at schools and parties think a certain way and are out of touch are america. >> new york and d.c. are overwhelmingly partisan. you can look how people voted in those places to see how out of touch they are with the rest of the country. i think news papers used to have more bureaus in other pl...

Everything single thing that happened with donald trump. making huge issues out of things that might not have been huge issues with the voters. howie: the "new york times" is the maybe that broke the email scandal. do you see any serious self-reflection of recognition other than maybe a few columnists, gee, we botched it and we need to do a much better job? >> i thought after the election you would see all these people saying what did we do, how did we mess up so much? it's an objective truth that we messed up. we never understood the fundamentals. but there weren't that's reflections. there w...

P.r. that's all these celebrities are doing. so as we talked about, back in 2008, there were a number of republicans who were expected to go to the convention in minnesota. but they didn't go. i broke that story. the reason i broke the story is i was calling a number of campaign asking if they were going to do. i found that all these republic consequence weren't going to go and all the democrats were. in this case people are going out and asking celebrities, are you going to go to the inauguration? howie: jan chamberlain, a member of the mormon tabernacle choir resigned. at least she used her ...

Howie: you called donald trump a clown. >> there are some clownish things he said. and i don't believe he's a true conservative. howie: in 2008, you got almost no attention from the main stream press right up until shortly before the iowa caucus which of course you won. this time around it seems you are also not getting as much attention. do you see a pattern here? >> i think there is a certain media narrative. the media decides this guy is a winner in a way that doesn't make sense top the voters or the candidates. i could complain by the. but the best thing to do is to go out and win. if you ...

Think it affected our ability to understand what was happening in the country this year and did nobody a service to have everybody in these elite echo chambers. howie: new york is not the real world and the upper end of manhattan does not represent the whole world. one cnn reporter said i was shocked by the high bar for one candidate and a high bar for another candidate. >> the high bar was for hillary clinton and the low bar for donald trump. there were issues early on which how much media coverage donald trump got no matter what he did. i if i no objective viewer could be confused about how ...