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Obama also approved a previously undisclosed conversation that if the united states found itself in an escalating exchange with moscow. the plan was still at the beginning stages when obama left office t would be up to president trump to decide whether to use the capability. what's your hunch on those conversations and where it might stand? >> no. my sense is that the administration is not taking tough action against rush shach russia. they are threatening nato. they did not invoke article 5 when the president was in brussels recently. we've allowed russia to have a no-fly zone in the person p...

What they need also. >> chris, what do you make of some of the criticism that my brother's keeper only focuses on boys and not girls and it's only temporary? once president obama leaves office t can just go away. >> you can heard the statistics. we're hoping this is not something that just goes away. you know, everyone is trying to do as much as they can, and it starts here and it starts now. but it's for all our youth also. >> so you think girls should be included? >> i think girls should be included? oh, yeah. this right here, this initiative is all about the young black men. not just black ...

Civilian leaders he's not going to abide by public debate. the time has come to get that right. whether or not you replace ambassador eikenberry i'm less concerned. what disturbs me is the roll of ambassador holbrook, meant to do what congressman ellison is suggesting, be the head of the civilian surge. they increased the number of civilians there since president obama took office t is true but not enough. the military, i think the military strategy is correct, but the military alone won't succeed without the sort of civilian surge that congressman ellison is talking about. we haven't seen it ...

Tea party candidates just shooting utah senator bob bennett from the g.o.p. primary. good news for the next guest, running for senate in kentucky which holds its primary next week. he's leading tray grayson in the polls. with us, dr. rand paul, republican congressman. ron paul' son. good to have you. >> good to be with you. >> neil: what do you make of what happened in utah? you take bennett, very conservative by and large, maybe not on issues tea partiers cared about. is he a litmus test and could it hurt the tea party movement in they divide and conquer conservatives who you would think are ...

Checks every day. >> ohio is not alone. connecticut and california lost millions of dollars and they, with ohio are suing the rating agencies. those agencies say they are going to defend themselves. but they are getting heat in congress. and the financial reform bill now before the senate tharks would decrcreate a new office t require oversight and more transparency of those credit rating agencies. john and kiran? >> it goes back to giselle. you asked, do you think you could think you could afford this house. she said no. >> she is a smart woman but not smart in the way of finance. she was a l...