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Old war lords, these toothless old guys, they're not going to rise up. they don't have the people they think they have. or that the taliban would take the country at large and that is what they've done. >> richard, in terms of the u.s. retrenchment and the redeployment of u.s. troops back to the airport, what do you think is going to happen at the airport? we've got as we understand from the pentagon tonight, 3,500 u.s. troops there by the end of the day today heading toward 6,000. obviously the main effort is to consolidate american assets at the airport including the ambassador and whatever ...

Potentially, but the afghan security forces are already starting to fracture. what we're seeing now is the war lords in afghanistan, and there are many war lords regionally based predominantly, trying to form a coalition to back up the afghan security forces. so a lot of the old war lords from before the american presence here are starting to reemerge and bring their guns out. and it is going to be very difficult to create unity. so you have a dynamic where you have americans leaving and the taliban for say loose coalition of everybody else. some people say it is a formula for civil war. >> ye...