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What would the most effective sanctions look like if they were to be imposed on vladimir putin? thea;r be imposed on vladimir putin? they robabl be imposed on vladimir putin? they probably should _ be imposed on vladimir putin? tie: probably should not be be imposed on vladimir putin? ti9:1: probably should not be widespread sanctions against the russian people but vladimir putin is arguably the richest man in the world has stolen and enormous amount of money from russian people and that money is held in the name of oligarchs and oligarch trustees don't hold that money in russia they hold it i...

In the name of people he trusts, the trustees so you have to sanction the oligarchs and the billionaires on the forbes list and the united states will go after oligarchs and family members. yes, they did, a few but not nearly enough in order to really show putin that we're serious. i mean, there's all sorts of images of private jets and boats, yachts floating around the world with these oligarchs who are untouched. so this has to be done in an absolutely meticulous manner to go after putin's oligarch trustees and to go after all of the people that hold his money in the west and for what it's w...

Human rights offenders. those sanctions have a lot of bite. good to have you with us this morning. >> great to be here. >> you know about sanctions in russia. you know which sanctions hurt the most. by the way, the act certainly has worked in many respects. the u.s. has tried sanctions for seven years since russia invaded and annexed crimea, and it's still there. what of the menu of these sanctions that the biden administration is considering right now do you consider most potentially impactful? >> you have to understand that putin is not a normal head of state. he's a man who has accumulated ...

He's got a long list of things he wants to accomplish, and it doesn't cost him much to put a bunch of troops there so he has a negotiating position. because everybody is so afraid of going to war with russia, which i don't think he has any intention of doing, the world will basically say, yes, the western world, i should say, biden and the germmans and the eu and so on, will say what's on your wish list, we'll grant it. that's how he operates. >> to that end, bill, president biden going in with what we saw from former president trump, the important meeting yesterday with european leaders, maki...

Oligarchs, after his money. >> you can sanction them to say you can't travel here. what you are talking about is something more ambitious which would be maybe exposing the extent of their foreign assets. >> freezing their assets because vladimir putin doesn't have any money in his own name, oligarch trustees. if you freeze their money are freezing vladimir putin's money and no more chemical weapons after that. >> he doesn't have any money in his own name. he depend on their offices. >> and on our weakness not to go after them. >> weiss and the west going after that giving many depredations fro...