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Says, let's say the ninth circuit uphold the suspension? we don't have to talk about whether we get to a substantive ban as joe was saying. there is a great deal of deference in national security and the congress has given some authority, obviously, as well, that increases the president's authority. but let's say this ban stays in place, at least for the next few weeks. and the president tweets out that he's not goingo follow. he is directing his departments not to follow what this panel of judges has said. okay. what then? how is the congress going to react? because it has to go to the congre...

White house is that steve bannon is the brains behind the operation. he is the person that has been pushing the union strategy. he's the person who has been pushing all of the other strategies. he certainly did, though, elise is right, he certainly did push, loon along with steven miller the executive order that was rushed that was chaotic, that still nick, is causing chaos in that white house. >> that's right. look, joe. look. he is doing what he said he would do the order attributed to bannon are straight from the trump campaign platform. straight from the message. the whole idea that it's b...

Risking the world, takiing to war. on the other hand, the donald trump campaign was very dler he thought america was overextended in the world. and i think he can find better ways to express that thought than to say, you know, barack obama killed a lot of people with drones, we are the moral equivalent of the soviet union. >> i just, again, nick, i have to ask. this is a man who can call arnold schwarzenegger a ratings loser and he can call chuck schumer a clown and a cry baby. but he can't say, no, i don't respect a leader who does a, b, ac. we have to have some sort of relationship in the fu...

People who lost out in that battle for the white house could not have felt more gypped and more deeply hurt by the situation and, yet, they respected the law, they respected the process, and it was peaceful, and it happened because we are built on this incredible foundation to chip away like this. obviously, questions the legitimacy of the judiciary, nick, but it also, it feels -- it feels almost antagonistic on every level, this president is just punching every system or every process that happens. even covering the white house has now become this, you know, horrific media that, you know, is ...

Solution here. >> well -- >> i want to follow up, mika, on what nick said. if donald trump keeps being asked to criticize vladimir putin for assassinating journalists and donald trump refuses to criticize vladimir putin for assassinating journalists and say, well, we do it too, in a sense, does that suggest he thinks it's okay to assassinate journalists? >> look, i -- >> does that suggest he thinks it's okay to jail political opponents, to assassinate political opponents? if you don't condemn, after being repeatedly asked to condemn these actions, at some point you go back to the he who does n...