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Focusing on another roger stone associate in regard to wikileaks. late last month reports emerged that mueller has e-mails from the new york-based birther and conspiracy theorist jerome corsi written to stone that seem to anticipate the release of hacked democratic e-mails during the campaign. both men deny having any inside knowledge about what wikileaks was planning. stone has said he spoke to trump the day after receiving those messages from corsi. this weekend trump lawyer rudy giuliani was asked about their conversation. >> did roger stone ever give the president a heads-up on wikileaks' ...

>> i'm asking you for the truth, sir. >> well, i want the truth, too. >> if you like that, there's more where it came from. here's giuliani again. this time he's not saying that collusion didn't happen. he's arguing that even if it did, it's not a crime. >> and did roger stone ever give the president a heads-up on wikileaks' leaks concerning hillary clinton and the dnc. >> no, he didn't. not at all. i don't believe so. but again, if roger stone gave anybody heads up about wikileaks' leaks, that's not a crime. >> depends on what the definition of a crime is. joining us on another extraordinary ...

Answer the posed question in that way? if his answer is seen as enticing manafort to lie for him, holding out the idea he might reward manafort for his help after the fact. that is the kind of thing that can get a president impeached. i'm reading from facts in the nixon impeachment case. it's really just a fancy way of saying it's a no-no to ask someone to lie for you if you're in turn promising to pardon them down the road. we have no evidence the president is doing anything similar in talking about pardons today. he was asked a question and answered it. he also did choose to answer it in exa...

Everywhere. he wants americans to hear the caravan more than four -- more than the four white supremacists in southern california indicted just today for carrying out violent attacks at political rallies. did you hear about that one? hmm. he hasn't talked about that. and he definitely doesn't want you to talk about the russia investigation, especially as e-mails surfaced today between roger stone and steve bannon about wikileaks, the disclosures of e-mails stolen by the russians. that's amid reports that stone pitched himself to the trump campaign as a wikileaks pipeline. the president doesn't...

Certainly he's acting like he was some kind of conduit, had some back door communication with julian assange sflp but does it prove, shimon, that roger stone was a backchannel link between wikileaks and the campaign? >> i mean, if you just look at these e-mails on their face, you know, you can read a lot into it. and it does seem that way. certainly from his e-mails. but we don't know exactly everything the mueller team has and what other information they have. there are other e-mails from steve bannon where it seems he's not even taking roger stone seriously and he's acting like he knows thin...