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Republican senators sounded like you are not obsessed on the confirmation hearing for john g brown apparently that's the -- and they're catering to. that is why apparently they spent the past few days attacking her for supposedly being soft on criminals convicted of possessing child abuse material. even after that particular spirit was widely debunked. and that's one of my next guest for the new york times, part of a plan to fire up the white ring conspiracy in days. quote, the qanon conspiracy flying into action almost as soon as senator josh hawley tweeted his alarm -- that judge ketanji bro...

Was completely disavowed by the former president and those who followed him. naturally, people will seek out information elsewhere. so they'll g o to sources like youtube or other social media outlets. they'll plug in some information, and their feeds will instantly populate with like information. so they will just continue to go down that rabbit hole of misinformation because that's what their feed is populating, is being populated with. >> right. and as part of this episode, you spoke to one qanon conspiracy theory believer. that has got to be such a fascinating discussion. take us inside hi...

Studies showed that over 50% of americans believed in at least one conspiracy theory. >> "this is life" host lisa ling joins me now. lisa, i am so signififascinateds topic and i'm so glad you'll be taking a deeper dive into this later on. you spoke to one qanon conspiracy theory believer. take us into his thinking. how does he view what's happening in our country right now? >> pamela, look. this actually is so complex. and as you just showed in the clip, there has been an erosion of trust that has been historical, right? and so, when the pandemic began in this country, this was a scary time fo...

For the democrats and the white house, that want to go around and talk about the things they do and the plans, they have seen at times, lifting the political ramifications of not fighting about the untruths. i'm told we don't want to elevate those. how long do you let those things fester without talking about them? and wushing them aside? >> before i let you go, how is this qanon playing out on school boards? >> qanon has decided to start running in local elections because low turnout can win you an election. there's one qanon supporter, one of the big influencers, tracy diaz, who won a local ...

Really believe it. they have been surprised, at the suburban white women that saw him on the tv, probably when they expect him to believe something that is never going to happen. possibly, dangerous. and that aspect of it is confusing. and when talking to republicans up here in washington, d.c., behind the scenes, they're not sure what to do with it. again, they know they can't speak out against something like that. and they can't say that donald trump is not going to be president, even though he's not going to be in a few days, in a week. unless he runs in 2024. it seems like the republican p...