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president biden was in normandy today commemorating the 80th anniversary of d-day. while he was there he was asked about something totally unrelated. whether he would issue a pardon for his son hunter if he is convicted of felony gun vices. here is how he responded. >> as we sit here in normandy, your son hunter is on trial. let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? >> yes. >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. >> pretty clear answer there. but again, this is a yes or no question. and to be honest, it shouldn't be that...

Interview. We have a lot of questions for her. Thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. Thats it for this special report. Fair, balanced and unafraid. The story hosted by Martha Maccallum starts right now. Did you see that video . Martha i love that video. You might see it again and this hour i love it so much. Thank you, good to see you tonight. Breaking tonight, an exclusive interview with the man urging the president to strip topsecret Security Clearances from formal officials who are now some of his largest, loudest critics on tv. I use the terms that this is nothing sort of treasono...

This is the only way he can do it. >> it is audacious, again, maybe one step beyond that. because mike johnson is not only just defending donald trump, saying the republican party is the rule of law. that's it. mike johnson suggests there has been a lot of reported debate about how far joe biden should go. and the recollect campaign on this topic and i wonder if you have a thought on this. because there are fairly wise and established democratic strategists who say if he focuses too much on the criminality of this, he will alienate voters right there in the middle. >> the convicted felon is on...

He wants to stay out of prison. and this is the only way he can do it. >> it's audacious again even one step beyond that because mike johnson is not only defending donald trump, not only suggesting he's a martyr, but saying the republican party is a rule of law. if you lookepis at the dictiona under the term gaslighting, that's it. like mike johnson suggests -- >> gaslighting with rocket fuel. >> yes. i just think, dan, there's been a lot of reported debate inside democratic circles about how far joe biden should go in the campaign, in thein re-elect campaign on this topic, and i wonder if you...

And evidence applied to the law. and they unanimously decided, beyond a reasonable doubt, donald trump had every constitutional right that anyone else gets. that is the rule of law. when the speaker johnson and other house republicans started attacking this prosecution because they don't like the outcome, that is the opposite of supporting the rule of law. and the reality is that americans, on november 5th, are going to have a very simple choice. who do you want in the oval office? a convicted felon, or not? and that is where we are. >> i mean, it is even, probably one step beyond that. it is ...