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11:27 a.m. before the suspect entered the school, he immediately unleashed more than 100 rounds, shortly after that, three officers entered the school and two of them were immediately grazed by the gunman s bullets. john: according to texas dps, as many as 19 officer gathered in the hallway as of 12:03:00 p.m. no effort was made to breach the door of the classroom until 40 minutes later. law enforcement facing questions and criticism over the amount of time that passed before they stormed the classroom to stop the carnage. uvalde mayor will join us in the next hour, but we have team coverage this hour on all angles. karl rove will join us in moment. alicia is live in houston where the nra convention is being held. john: bill melugin, what a news conference that was. bill: yeah, john, that is an understatement. i think our jaws hit the floor as well, one of the big highlights we learned from the moment the shooter was first encountered by police in that school un ....
Make sure the doors are not propped, they are not open. perimeter security is critically important. anita: you know, according to the school security plan posted on the district website, there were a lot of security measures in place. i want to put some of them up on the screen, but there were supposed to be four officers in the school district s partnership, with local law enforcement, security staff. patrol the doors, case managers, threat assessment teams, social media monitoring, security cameras, a locked classroom door policy, so many things and yet many of those things didn t seem to be in place. what is your take on that? quite honestly, it only takes one of those things to not be in place or to not be tended to. it can be as simple as maintenance of a door not locking properly, or propping a door. it only takes one of those things to create this level of ....
Highlighting the actions of the incident commander, the commander on the ground making the decisions here. he identified him as the uvalde school district police chief and he said it s an inexcuseable decision that was made and in hindsight it was the wrong decision made to not breach that door. he says the police chief decided to treat it as a barricade situation rather than an active shooter situation. and director mccraw says you cannot do that and under texas law, texas policies with their active shooter doctrine, you have to go straight in and neutralize that threat. take a listen. texas embraces and teaches, ok, the active shooter doctrine. as long as there are kids and as long as there is someone spiring, go to the gun, neutralize him, period. and only some nuances with transition to a barricaded ....
Apparently made a facebook post saying ten more days in the days before the shooting. so there was a digital footprint left behind. everything that came out of the press conference will be tough for parents to hear and it s tough for law enforcement to hear, too. i ve been hearing analysts, did they do it right or wrong, dps says they did it wrong. i want to explain the other side of the coin from some law enforcement sources i ve been talking to, look, the patrol officers who arrived at the door and had a decision to make about breaching likely only had side arms, not long guns, did not have a ballistic shield and their choice was do we funnel in through one door, the guy with the ar rifle ready to pick us off one by one as we come through, and all be killed or call for the team with the resources and the capability to handle something like this. ....
Issues. but look, my heart sunk during that news conference when there was a discussion about the door that was propped open. all the things we are talking about now would not have stopped this. what would have stopped this potentially or at least given law enforcement more time and kept the shooter out of the building was if that door had not been propped open. and so just simply following the procedures in law and practice in the state of texas might have kept this problem happening or at least played out in a far less violent way. john: you mention red flag laws, we saw it in new york state fail, and other examples where red flag laws failed to prevent somebody from getting a gun. in the red flag idea is there but you have to put it into practice. let me ask you about this. chuck schumer this week blocked the luke and alan act, they were ....