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Rachel: thank you, congressman. >> thank you. will: the reason i pressed that finish. rachel: i'm glad you did, and i think he knows -- it's hard for him. will: he knows some of the motivations within the party, and it's not just the why. but you wonder, is there a breaking point? is there a certain number? pete: you heard him nod toward the immigration activists which is a nod to the far-left, open borders crowd, that's who the white house is listening to. the ngos are front and center, they are the driving force of that crowd. will: that's right. rachel: it's money, it's elections, it's a lo...

The state of california a sanctuary. it will expand protections for some illegals, create safe zones at hospitals, schools, courthouses, and in some cases the feds would not be allowed to ask an individual about their immigration status. one activist is applauding the move. >> when this bill passes, erisa restores a little bit. it will make us safer. there are people who do bad things, but you cannot, you cannot cast a cloud of suspicion on an entire community just because of one person. >> gillian: as you can imagine, not everyone is happy about this. >> how can you make a community safer whe...

This people love the idea of this evil genius controlling hand in any administration, you know in the bush administration it was dick cheney. in the obama administration i guess the david axlerod and valerie jared type. >> kind of a slash. >> the way he's been described in the media, you envision this darth vadar-type figure and you hear him on the stage yesterday and he wasn't that. i want to pose this question, she said the battle for the deconstruction of the administrative state. these are very intense, it's very intense rhetoric coming out of the white house. >> the era of big government,...

Because, as you know, donald trump went after president obama, saying he didn't believe the birth certificate was real, he might have been born outside thein country, illegitimate president. when he did that, all of the p supporters, you know, fervent supporters of barack obama, hated him. and that has now expanded. does that sound crazy? >> they oppose the agenda. the open borders crowd, the environment -- >> bill: that is a small part of it. >> i think that is a large part of it.l: you lose on the merits of those arguments with the american people. the easiest way to make him ineffective is ...

As you know, donald trump but after president obama, saying he didn't believe the birth certificate was real, he might have been born outside the country, illegitimate president. when he did that, all of the supporters, fervent supporters of barack obama, hated him. and that has now expanded. does that sound crazy? >> they oppose the agenda. the open borders crowd, the environment -- >> bill: that is a small part of it. >> that is a large part of it. you lose on the merits of those arguments of the american people. the easiest way to make him ineffective is to demonize. call him a racist and a...