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Loophole. >> thank you very much. good analysis. let's get some more now joining republican. thanks so much for joining us. >> tlangs for having me. >> do you support the tax plan that the president released today? >> i like the direction of the plan. will is going to be a lot of debate ap amendments through open process. so i look forward to supporting a tax package for the american people that benefits working families across this country. >> but do you support this plan, this specific plan the president unveiled today? >> well, i think there is a lot of merit to this plan. lower the rates t...

Republican senators have advocated and voted for this in the past. we'll see what happens. >> and do you believe the motion simply to start the debate -- you have the 50 votes you need to at least begin the process? >> i think so. and if the clean repeal doesn't pass, and if the senate leadership plan doesn't pass, then i think we begin the process of voting on variations of smaller ideas and see how many ideas we can come to agreement on. this is something i've been talking about for nearly a year is -- let's start small and see how many pieces of repeal we can all agree on. we may find we ca...

The president. do you agree that the president shouldn't be, you know, slamming his attorney general in public the way he is in that interview with the "new york times" and as far as the tweets are concerned? >> you know, i think the president has his own unique way of going about things that nobody everybody else would choose those methods but i do think that the president is, in some ways, justified in being upset that the attorney general has left him open to this whole idea of some kind of special prosecutor looking into every asset of his entire life, aspect of his entire life, and i thin...

On this. seven senators vote you couldn't count on. senator mccain coming back after a very dire diagnose, quite beloved by people on both sides of the aisle to cast a vote in favor of the motion to proceed puts other senators over the line, too, to debate. >> he this the full process open hearings and go forward with a big debate, not necessarily just try to ram it -- didn't he make a statement along those lines? >> he did. i'm with susan. i can't imagine he comes back from arizona to vote against the motion to proceed. i think that his justification will be, okay. we're not having open heari...

That's laden with pork is going to fail. i think the clean repeal has a chance but it may also fail. but then i think the process actually gets to what i've been advocating for a long time at that point. we begin constructing the bill from a very small nucleus of ideas that we all agree on. i think we have nearly unanimous agreement on getting rid of the individual mandate, getting rid of the employer mandate. repealing some of the taxes. i think there's even some agreement on medicare expansion gradually going to a point where the states pay the traditional share of that. so i think we may fi...