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I couldn't live here no more. and i started staying at the salvation army in pritchard. i honestly believed that they would have killed my mom and daddy. >> 29-year-old henry hays looked chipper as his capital murder trial got under way. security is very tight at the trial where in his opening argument, acting district attorney tom harrison charged that hays and 20-year-old james "tiger" knowles went out looking for a black man and found michael donald. >> i put tiger knowles on the stand, and we went through, you know, who he is, did he know henry hays, and how did he know him. just asking wh...

Proceeding. so certainly two very different ways to view the evidence. notably, the prosecutors and the defense both used the same piece of video in their opening argument, something we certainly saw during the oath keepers' trial as well, basically the evidence there for both parties to try to use but putting dramatically different spins on it. >> i'm joined now by a former spokesperson for the paramilitary group the oath keepers, their member and one other member convicted last year. also testifying during a public hearing of the january 6th committee in july. so your experience with the oat...

>> it made a list of arguments, as well. some of those arguments include the fact that they believe that there is no specific evidence to support the evidence a specific plot that was laid out ahead of january six but instead, defense attorneys are making the argument that they were just caught up in the mob mentality. another argument they made, anderson, was that the protests happened in the capital all the time, that protest disrupt congressional proceedings all the time, and that this was no different. finally, anderson, they were making the argument that ultimately what this is really abo...

Defenses here, defense attorneys say, look, our clients were there fwaskly as hired security. i wonder how strong you think that defense may or may not be and ohio effective do you think the prosecution was at poking holes in it? >> so it's a fairly common tactic when prosecutors make their opening argument. you don't want to make the defense argument for the defendant but you want to poke holes in. i think the defenses don't carry water. the first argument we were just there for security or waiting for donald trump to invoke the insurrection act. the fact is donald trump did not invoke the in...

The molalla commission for i think thirty hours in the house intelligence committee, the senate intelligence committee. i had bill burke. i had alex spyro here. i had david shaw and i had top lawyers. they wouldn't even let meve they wouldn't even let that can rely on the on the opinion ofr. my lawyer here. they took t weigh every possible defense so somebody can have a defense of law. that's why we didn't even put under the defense. we just had a close they had opening argument, a closingou argument to tucker. this is where they're going. i mean, you documented better than anybody. but no, pe...