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To carry out a transition, which i think is a foolish transition that we have to show or institute. Think that the idea of a 0 net carbon world doesnt function and whats needed is new technologies and whats needed also is collaboration. And instead the idea that somehow we can use a war for a transition to a policy which wont work, makes no sense. And i think the coalition is starting to fall apart because people are going out into the streets in germany as they are throughout europe. And we just saw the fiasco in great britain. So i think the western world is facing the kind of transformation...

A change of power in great britain. And they were also some changes in other countries like italy or sweden. But i would argue that the change of leadership happened without a change of policies. What, how long do you think it will take before actual changes, some sort of connection to reality happens . Well, it depends on how dedicated the people who are pushing these changes are. I saw the demonstrations signs from paris and rome in the last couple of days with signs saying out of the you, out of nato. Thats a shift. And i dont think the government should have been elected, are ready to leav...

And tested relationship laid the groundwork for peace and prosperity to europe over the last 50 years. What awaits the continent now that these connections are being purposefully severed at americas bidding . Well, to discuss it, im now joined by harley slang or Vice President of the schuler institute. Mr. Shlang, or its great to talk to you. Thank you very much for your time. Well, thank you very much for your invitation. Now let us start with the practical things. I know that the germans used to be known for that practicality on attention to business. And the other day german chancellor of s...

Demonstrations signs from paris and rome in the last couple of days with signs saying out of the you, out of nato. Thats a shift. No, i dont think the government should have been elected are ready to leave the European Union or nato. But the people are, the people are being told you have to freeze for the sake of nato. And i dont think thats a good selling point in germany or anywhere. Can i ask you something and maybe thats my sort of erotica heritage posing this question. But i think people in the west invest too much in the power of protests, you know, taking to the streets, to change polic...

Talk to you. Thank you very much for your time. Well, thank you very much for your invitation. Now let us start with the practical things. I know that the germans used to be known for that practicality and attention to business and the other day german chancellor. All of shoulds remarked that one of the, i guess Silver Linings of the current confrontation between russia and the west in ukraine is the fact that germany is on track well being fully liberated from its dependence on Russias Energy sources. Is that full freedom as far as youre concerned . Theyre just trading one dependence for anot...