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We're talking about a situation where there could be a standoff and we could try to engage the individual to try and negotiate and allow him to surrender to authorities. >> that is a very important point. they desperately want to take him alive. they need information. was he a lone wolf, his brother and he? were they connected to a home-grown cell? were they connected to foreign operatives? we have never before seen chechen operatives going against the u.s. >> just think about the immediate situation. you know he's going to get the first couple guys coming for him. that's the danger. >> i woul...