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Appreciate you both on the sunday afternoon thank you. >> up next the right wing war on women's bodily autonomy is actively being wage but we shouldn't lose sight of the incredible tool that the fda recently granted women by approving over the counter birth control. just in case you missed it coming up why opill is an absolute game-changer in this fight for so many reasons n. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker su...

The U.S. approved an over-the-counter oral contraceptive, joining more than 100 other countries. What is Canada waiting for?

It's called opill, it's going to be accessible to the masses. but might not be quite that accessible. to break it down, michelle goodwin joins me now, she is the author of policing the womb, invisible women and the criminalization of motherhood. professor, it's always good to see you. i want to talk first about iowa. the latest state with a six-week ban. by using six weeks, republicans get to say, it is not a total ban. while in reality banning nearly all abortions, right? >> that is right, that is right, so it appears more the loser, it remains, to tolerate a pregnancy in the state of iowa, a...

Should educate yourself before you jump to do anything over the counter, including very save oral contraception. >> what are the expenses though? i think that's one of the biggest worries for a lot of folks out there, right? could it be prohibitively expensive considering the fact that it's over the counter? not necessarily covered by insurance? is there a way around? that insurance maybe can cover it? do we even know the cost is gonna be? >> we don't. so, we know the manufacturer has made a commitment to make this, quote unquote, affordable. we know we'll hear about the price soon,, this is n...

Left. i want to ask, you we've seen with some other medications in this space, pharmacies choose not to provide access to that drug in states where it is seen as contentious. do you have any concern about that with opill? >> i'm not sure. i think we will have to see the way it plays out. i think those pharmacies should be held to account. i think one of the things that absolutely has to happen is the legalities, the legal ramifications of doing so we need to become clear, both for dispensing medicine, four states who have tried to create de facto bans by making them and clear pharmacies are ab...