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Obamacare. that's a very significant number, sunlen. >> it is a very significant number. i expect we'll certainly hear a lot of that in the next few days. also interesting that he was specifically emphasizing that premiums will go down by about 10%. that's according to the latest cbo report. >> sunlen is on capitol hill. let's go to phil mattingly, our congressional correspondent. he is getting more reaction to the cbo report. what are you learning? >> you got a bit of a flavor of it. i want to read what paul ryan put out, who is essentially the grandfather of the plan, put it all into motion ...

>> it's being rolled out all at once. we are working on the regulations right now. we have had a proposed rule out there to narrow the window so insurers are allowed to stay in markets. one third of the counties in this country, over 1,000 counties only have one insurer offering coverage on the exchanges. five states only have one insurer offering coverage on the exchanges. you tell me that that's what the plan was. the fact is that those folks have no choice whatsoever. the federal government has destined them to only have one opportunity to purchase coverage. and if that's not what they want...

Occur. we are not certain -- >> the cbo is wrong? >> just look at the numbers. there are 8 million people, 8, 9 million people on the exchange currently. how do they get to 14 million people uninsured if only 8 million are on the exchange. i guess they are individuals who they assume are on medicaid who aren't paying anything in the medicaid system who are not going to take the medicaid policy just because the mandate ended or something happened? it's just not believable is what we would suggest. we'll look at the numbers and see. >> mr. secretary, without that mandate to buy coverage, would y...