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And then a politics problem as you get to exactly with the fact that the senate can only lose two votes. this is assuming all democrats oppose this bill, which is a very safe assumption. the senate can only lose two votes to have some kind of legislation, whatever they come up with, pass. and right here you are excluding two moderates, two very important, powerful moderates who carry a lot of weight in the senate from even crafting the legislation. and the fact that they happen to be women also gets to this optics problem republicans have right now. >> eugene, we saw the house bill went throug...

This legislation if it gets passed and that they truly are concerned about making health care more affordable not just for people who look like them, but people who have different needs, different pre-existing conditions than themselves that are unique to women. >> when you consider, amber, that two of the voices or two of the votes they're likely going to need are from two of the more moderate members of the caucus, lisa murkowski of alaska, susan collins of maine, two more moderate female senators who could have filled one of these seats that were occupied by two of the more moderate men. yo...

Are not happy with it. the president just called for a massive cut. so is there an optics problem now? >> it's the same optics problem every president has in varying degrees. this is a fun little football to throw around, that the president costs a lot to protect. but that's maybe the most essential function of the federal government, protecting of people and protecting our president. every time a president takes vacation, the opposition party goes bananas. so i don't think this is really anything unique to trump. i think it's something every president goes through. >> is that it? it does cost...

As drawing a moral equivalency, and it's offensive. i can't speak for donald trump's intentions, but i know it sounds offensive, and i know that, you know, putin as someone who is not elected in free and fair elections, who persecutes his opposition, who persecutes journalists and does all sorts of other nefarious things, even the accidental, if we want to give him that suggestion that, you know, basically everybody does this kind of stuff, that's a real optics problem. >> we are running out of time. ben, just ten seconds. can you tell us if you think trump is putting the united states at a mo...

Never really had. having said that, the problem with trump is he's painted himself into a corner with putin politically because he's made himself appear to be a puppet or a pawn of the kremlin whether or not, in fact, he is or isn't. >> rachel, you've been saying from the beginning, at least in our dialogue the reason to put out his portfolio of business interests and loans and taxes is to remove this type of speculation. is it even more important to do so now? >> i would say so. basically trump has not only a conflict of interest problem, but an optics problem. because we have no idea what hi...