never really had. having said that, the problem with trump is he's painted himself into a corner with putin politically because he's made himself appear to be a puppet or a pawn of the kremlin whether or not, in fact, he is or isn't. >> rachel, you've been saying from the beginning, at least in our dialogue the reason to put out his portfolio of business interests and loans and taxes is to remove this type of speculation. is it even more important to do so now? >> i would say so. basically trump has not only a conflict of interest problem, but an optics problem. because we have no idea what his actual assets are, what his lblts are, who he owes money to, it will at the least undermine any policy decisions he ends up making. >> he can call this fake news, but the documents either exist or they don't. they're real enough to be included in an appendix by the intel officials. whether or not they discussed them specifically with trump we