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>> so when we look at this, we look at this in the context of what is unknown about trump, his business operations, and the conflicts between the kids being in charge of the business, and influencing government. this falls right into that category. >> yes. and it's not necessarily that anything -- we know that anything is wrong or anything is amiss. it's just mainly what it is at the very least is an optics problem. when you have, even ostensibly something that is for charity, where you're basically giving people the ability to pay to access the president or his surrogates, which his kids have...

Trump from television to try to get their message across. let's move on and talk about all the potential picks within the cabinet and how much they're worth together. so, you have, you know, betsy devos 5.1 million and wilbur ross $2.9 billion. i'm wondering, you know, these are people who trump would, of course, know that would be his network. do you think that they would have the chops, matt? >> well, i think there is an optics problem with that and it's something that we can talk about now. ultimately, i think donald trump is going to be judged by whether or not his administration is a succ...

The polls. >> the american airline schultz and i want to follow-up and ask about another exchange where brian fallon, the press secretary for the clinton campaign said doj folks inform me that there is a status hearing. if somebody is notifying about a document that is filing that report. they said this was filed tonight. what are the implications of a figure and the spokesman being in communication with justice officials? >> it's an optics problem. they are not commenting again. they're stressing a couple of points. one that the e-mail was not verifying, but the date of this was marked two mo...

Themselves one day. that's what i caution democrats. do not talk about taxing the rich in this campaign when middle class democrats talk about taxing the rich, them think they're included in that. this is a nonstory a breathless media story for a friday night going nowhere that it is sunday morning. maybe after today. anyway let's talk about george stephanopoulos who admit this had past week he donated $75,000 to the clinton foundation and apologized again this morning. the gop seizing on this suggesting he's not fit to act as for example a debate moderator. isn't there room for charitable act...

Saudis has been positive. >> reporter: but analysts too study the region say, not so fast. >> there is an optics problem. this is a rocky marriage and the gulf feels they were not included in the discussions about the iran deal that they were kept in the dark. so it's not so much what the u.s. is doing towards iran but how it's going about it. >> reporter: add to that the president caused further tension tellingal "new york times" the gulf states face a greater danger from their own extremists i think the big et threats they face may not be coming from iran invading. it's going to be from diss...