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We're going to see a lot more of that because of the timing of this. >> michael, you're a professor at the university of north carolina. you've studied this impeachment here here in the united states for a long time. >> yes. and i'm trying to think of it in a historical sense. so, yes, the politics will absorb us. the politics will distract us. but at some point, it has to be about the facts and at some point it has to be about the constitution. and those points will come. i think these facts are hard for the president to get around. if we imagine in the abstract what this president has done, ...

To get serious work done and now we have the logjam that will take all of the oxygen for the next several days. >> i don't know who wassic whicheling there. i don't know if that was you, howard. >> that was me! >> that was you. so you have called for this investigation. what -- what is the goal here? what is the white house aiming for and really, where can this investigation go? >> what investigation? first of all, it doesn't work like that. the president of the united states cannot order somebody to be wiretapped. that can only be done when the justice department or the fbi wants it done and ...