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4% is what he's getting right now according to cnn's latest poll. joining me to talk about it, msnbc political correspondent, kasie hunt who was at liberty today. john feehery, republican strategist. and sahil kapur, a reporter with "talking points memo." kasie, when these students are called to the assemblies, if they don't show up they have to pay a penalty. that's not fair to ted cruz. anything you skip you have to pay $10. what are students like there? very conservative religious people? >> it's a conservative religious environment. they were obviously very excited to see ted cruz. look, i...

This. he could walk on to that stage and present presidential-level optics without having to lift a finger on the organizing front. that makes a big difference. >> john, what's this going to do to your fight? it's going to begin, i hear the first debate may be in september. i watched other people and their ability to dominate the stage. he might be one who does dominate the debate with those kinds of assertions. >> well, it was a very impressive opening to a presidential bid. i thought that his personal story was actually quite compelling. i'm not a big ted cruz fan. you understand that. but i...