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On creating these dog runs and unrelist tick to expect someone who goes to the park not to bring their dog with them and allow them to rom p around. But for parks, that are areas that are planted areas that are not recreational areas, it would be good to keep the dogs off of there for a possibility if that can be possible if it just makes the maintenance even harder, if there are no areas, where the people are allowed to go on them any way, it would be good that they dont let their dogs on there too. And finally, we have heard for years, that i forget these numbers and that we had 90 gardeners...

That are planted areas that are not recreational areas, it would be good to keep the dogs off of there for a possibility if that can be possible if it just makes the maintenance even harder, if there are no areas, where the people are allowed to go on them any way, it would be good that they dont let their dogs on there too. And finally, we have heard for years, that i forget these numbers and that we had 90 gardeners and now we have 35. And i am just throwing out the numbers and i am not sure how accurate those are. The point is that we have a lot fewer gardeners than we did at one time for t...

Who goes to the park not to bring their dog with them and allow them to rom p around. But for parks, that are areas that are planted areas that are not recreational areas, it would be good to keep the dogs off of there for a possibility if that can be possible if it just makes the maintenance even harder, if there are no areas, where the people are allowed to go on them any way, it would be good that they dont let their dogs on there too. And finally, we have heard for years, that i forget these numbers and that we had 90 gardeners and now we have 35. And i am just throwing out the numbers and...

And the civic review. And speaking with tom about how to better integrate that and i think that some of what we put in place working with the Planning Department will benefit us in that. And what we have found and you are correct is that we go through the entire conversation and a trade off conversation about if you add and a tennis court what happens and those things you get to the specific Design Review and we have not fully engaged that group of stake holders and they, you know, given a different, view of the world, suggest removing something that was a, heavily brokered community compromis...