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But it's an amendment to the defense authorization bill. there's 700 of those. this is something that has bipartisan support and, indeed, bipartisan co-sponsorship, but these activists were willing to do this yesterday and to get s arrested for it to try to make the moral case for that legislation, just as wrenching and as blunt and as clear as they can so they can try to make sure it gets done. and i can't explain why we're seeing this in so many places so potently on so many issues right now, for whatever reason right now, one of the unsung, propulsive currents in the news right now is this ...

Or out-litigate gerrymandering. congress has to pass legislation to protect voting rights. there simply is no substitute right now. hopefully all of the voter suppression, all of the extreme gerrymandering we're seeing right now is a wake-up call for congress to act. that yes, this economic legislation is critically important, but nothing, nothing is more important than protecting american democracy. >> ari berman, senior reporter at "mother jones" magazine, who has just been a juggernaut on democracy and voting rights and on this gerrymandering problem in particular. thank you so much for mak...

It's greedy, shameful, and disrespectful to the people who live in this community. and her exasperation as somebody who's a nonpartisan observer in that community resonated in an interesting way and i think a lot of democrats feel very dispirited by this process. i think a lot of fair-minded observers who want small "d" well-run democracies, whether or not they like democrats or republicans feel dispirited by this, feel sort of hopeless about this. do you see the arc bending on this? do you see any way to look at this that is hopeful and constructive and isn't just deflating for people? >> we ...