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Legislation demanding spending cuts or whatever. and mccarthy signaling what is likely to be a months-long standoff with the full faith and credit of the united states at stake. cnn's jessica dean is live for us on capitol hill. jessica, how are democrats reacting to mccarthy's announcement? >> reporter: well, they're saying they remain united. jake, we heard from senate majority leader chuck schumer earlier today who said democrats across the board both in the house, president biden himself, that they want a clean debt ceiling bill. you just heard mccarthy there, that is not happening. so tha...

Conversation. >> show me your budget, i'll show you mine. >> okay. the white house said it's not going to negotiate with house republicans on future spending cuts in exchange for raising the country's debt ceiling, which is all about paying for things that congress has already spent. mccarthy says he doesn't think biden would ever want to be quote, irresponsible and childish and not sit and negotiate but he still hasn't specified what he wants. the latest now from cnn congressional correspondent jessica dean on capitol hill. what more do we know about this meeting? how is it going to go? >> ob...

For raising the country's debt ceiling, and paying for things that congress has already spent. mccarthy said today he doesn't think biden would want to be quote, irresponsible and childish. not sit and negotiate. he still hasn't specified exactly what he wants but he's now -- congressional correspondent jessica dean on capitol hill. what more do we know about this meeting, how is it gonna? go >> it's going great, anderson, you just laid it all out there. i think what's important to remember, is to zoom out and remember. this is the first meeting of what's going to be a really long, and drawn o...

They say they want to take a break and have a conference meet asking figure out what to do. but that requires a vote. that requires 219 members being willing to take a break. i don't know if they would be willing to do that. kevin mccarthy wants to keep voting. i imagine we will end this vote. there maybe more speeches and we'll go right back at it again with this same long, drawn out process. >> kevin mccarthy betting that wearing them down is the the best way to persuade them. he tried to persuade them in the caucus and it was a fractious caucus this morning. at this stage, if kevin mccarthy...

Partisan this fight has become. >> manu raju, grateful for that. right now we mentioned earlier in the program kamala harris is in poland. she also had a sit down there with the canadian prime minister justin trudeau. this is critically important trip for her, but it's also critically important, we were talking ability this earlier the biden administration realizes one impact of this. we don't know what's going to happen in ukraine, but a serious rewrite of the infrastructure now to build up and intensify and keep at least for a while now more of the presence on russia's doorstep. >> in this m...