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His angry words going after the american news media as the enemy of the american people, does he realize that god forbid, where that could lead? >> i mean, he certainly shows no worry about it because he keeps talking about the news media that way. you know, i think when presidents speak they have sort of a hydraulic effect. it has more power than just the words itself because the words get so much attention and these endless attacks on the news media, even though the president has never called for violence against the people that do the work we do, you can see how people who are unhinged, who...

He understood newspaper deadlines, drop sisterly right before a deadline, because the reporters couldn't check it. he understood television, and ultimately the country ran out of patience with him. my best historical -- our best historical source for that is a common denominator between mccarthy and trump, roy kohn. roy kohn started out as joe mccarthy's lawyer. kohn said what he believed brought mccarthy down. where the army said, have you no decency. but that the public got tired of the show, they needed something new, they felt he had worn out his welcome. if you rise on being outrage ous. ...